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	<title>Comments on: Listening to the System</title>
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	<description>Ben Hyde</description>
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		<title>By: RabbitMQ OpenSources Messages Service &#171; TuXxX Blog</title>
		<link>http://enthusiasm.cozy.org/archives/2009/02/listening-to-the-system/comment-page-1#comment-5314</link>
		<dc:creator>RabbitMQ OpenSources Messages Service &#171; TuXxX Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Listening to the System Blog post from Ben Hyde examining some ideas how topic routing in AMQP is a good solution for building a message hub for real-time monitoring. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Listening to the System Blog post from Ben Hyde examining some ideas how topic routing in AMQP is a good solution for building a message hub for real-time monitoring. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Howard</title>
		<link>http://enthusiasm.cozy.org/archives/2009/02/listening-to-the-system/comment-page-1#comment-4522</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 14:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m also interested in MQ for monitoring - I started writing a &#039;dashboard&#039; application for our disparate monitoring sources (everything from Cacti to tiny perl scripts I wrote), and realised that polling was going to get painful quickly.

Now I&#039;m looking at this mumbling approach instead, and can easily write small specialised clients to look for patterns, and for visualisation with known-latest data, with Cacti spitting out little data announcements as it collects them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also interested in MQ for monitoring &#8211; I started writing a &#8216;dashboard&#8217; application for our disparate monitoring sources (everything from Cacti to tiny perl scripts I wrote), and realised that polling was going to get painful quickly.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m looking at this mumbling approach instead, and can easily write small specialised clients to look for patterns, and for visualisation with known-latest data, with Cacti spitting out little data announcements as it collects them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ascription is an Anathema to any Enthusiasm &#8250; Cascades of Surprise</title>
		<link>http://enthusiasm.cozy.org/archives/2009/02/listening-to-the-system/comment-page-1#comment-2082</link>
		<dc:creator>Ascription is an Anathema to any Enthusiasm &#8250; Cascades of Surprise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] build monitoring frameworks like the one I outlined in &#8220;Listening to the System&#8221; for at least four reasons.  Their maybe legal requirements that we keep records for later [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] build monitoring frameworks like the one I outlined in &#8220;Listening to the System&#8221; for at least four reasons.  Their maybe legal requirements that we keep records for later [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb</title>
		<link>http://enthusiasm.cozy.org/archives/2009/02/listening-to-the-system/comment-page-1#comment-1405</link>
		<dc:creator>Caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think of the &#039;long tail&#039; of log file analysis like deep-sea fishing: i&#039;m looking for that very rare, highly valuable fish among the flood of common breeds and noisy schools. You could wait for days without happening to see one going by, but of course, knowing its nature helps a lot in where (and when) to look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think of the &#8216;long tail&#8217; of log file analysis like deep-sea fishing: i&#8217;m looking for that very rare, highly valuable fish among the flood of common breeds and noisy schools. You could wait for days without happening to see one going by, but of course, knowing its nature helps a lot in where (and when) to look.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Vielmetti</title>
		<link>http://enthusiasm.cozy.org/archives/2009/02/listening-to-the-system/comment-page-1#comment-1382</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Vielmetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 05:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely put.

I&#039;m always a little surprised by people who build systems of any kind and then fail to stick in the real time, as it happens, tail the log file and stare at until it makes sense kind of monitoring that&#039;s my first instinct.  There are sometimes anguished cries from &quot;analytics&quot; people on one of the web advertising lists whose data analysis vendor isn&#039;t even keeping up with the pace of daily reporting.  (daily wtf?  if it matters, you have some sense for what it&#039;s doing while the market is open for whatever market you are in)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely put.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m always a little surprised by people who build systems of any kind and then fail to stick in the real time, as it happens, tail the log file and stare at until it makes sense kind of monitoring that&#8217;s my first instinct.  There are sometimes anguished cries from &#8220;analytics&#8221; people on one of the web advertising lists whose data analysis vendor isn&#8217;t even keeping up with the pace of daily reporting.  (daily wtf?  if it matters, you have some sense for what it&#8217;s doing while the market is open for whatever market you are in)</p>
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		<title>By: Dmitriy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dmitriy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff. I have also been thinking about the use of AMQP topic exchanges for operations monitoring and alarming.

A single message can be demultiplexed into multiple queues and hence to multiple consumers that can look at it at a slightly different angle. For example, a message published with &quot;server1.disk.nearfull&quot; routing key can be sent to a consumer that will initiate cleaning up old log files on server1, and at the same time can be sent to consumers tasked with monitoring applications running on server1, in case a failover needs to be initiated. All magically happening out of the box, thanks to AMQP.

If you have any code on this and can open source it, I would be very interested in contributing, and in fact I suspect there will be many people who will be interested in something like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff. I have also been thinking about the use of AMQP topic exchanges for operations monitoring and alarming.</p>
<p>A single message can be demultiplexed into multiple queues and hence to multiple consumers that can look at it at a slightly different angle. For example, a message published with &#8220;server1.disk.nearfull&#8221; routing key can be sent to a consumer that will initiate cleaning up old log files on server1, and at the same time can be sent to consumers tasked with monitoring applications running on server1, in case a failover needs to be initiated. All magically happening out of the box, thanks to AMQP.</p>
<p>If you have any code on this and can open source it, I would be very interested in contributing, and in fact I suspect there will be many people who will be interested in something like this.</p>
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